NOT A VERY ENGLISH RIOT

Many of you will have heard on the news that there was widespread rioting and looting in Tottenham in North London last night.

Mayhem broke out after a protest march to the local police station, following the fatal shooting (last Thursday) by the police of a local black man. The protest march was of course ‘initially peaceful’. It was initially peaceful until it turned violent, just as Attila the Hun was entirely peaceful until he rampaged across half of Europe and Asia, and just as Fred West wasn’t a psychotic murderer, until he started slaying the innocent.

There is some confusion over the shooting incident, which happened near Tottenham Hale Underground Station. It is reported that the 'victim' fired a shot at the police when a mini cab he was travelling in was hemmed in by several police cars. He was then shot by armed officers. The ‘victim’ was supposed to be a local ‘gangsta’.

The police adopted a ‘softly-softly’ approach after this and the ‘protestors’ took it as a sign of weakness. The several hundred strong mob took the non-visible police approach as appeasement – as they always would. Had the police officer in charge had the slightest understanding of what he was dealing with it might have been a different story. I have no doubt that the local police chiefs have spent their entire careers being lectured by liberal ‘do-gooders’ and as a result do not have a clue what to do in such circumstances.

I know the area very well.

When the Broadwater Farm riots took place in 1985, the rioters were mainly of West Indian origin. The West Indian community there now are actually more integrated and were barely involved in this riot. In a real sense these are their streets. But they have been rather swamped by new arrivals from all quarters of the globe. From Africa, from all sorts of obscure parts of Eastern Europe, from Turkey and from indeterminate locations between the Atlantic coast of Morocco all the way to Pakistan, whose common denominator is Islam.

The rioters this time were a polyglot bunch with no connection to this country, its traditions or culture – no inhibition. No link to the community they live in. To the high street they shop in. They have a transient mentality.

I watched the news early this morning and saw images of columns of smoke rising from Tottenham High Road. It reminded me of those epic Westerns like The Searchers, set in the Texas panhandle, when raiding bands of Comanches raided frontier settlements reducing the homesteads to blackened brick chimneys, which were left standing as lone sentinels across the plains.

Only this was North London – not very far from where I live in leafy Essex.

Only the Comanches were actually defending their precious homeland from foreign invasion – this is somewhat the opposite way around.

Only where is John Wayne when you need him to sort things out?

Of course the mob has ‘issues’. Had some of them been stopped and searched recently? Where they ‘disadvantaged’, or ‘brutalised’ by the police more than they were in Afghanistan, Kurdistan, Sudan, Somalia, Uzbekistan, Kosovo and Nigeria? I don’t really think so.

As I said it is near where I live and as chance would have it I had to go to Tottenham this morning – it is a short drive away. It had been quite ever since the shooting. Too quiet...

I am gratified that the looters didn’t quite get as far as White Hart Lane. Now that would have been too much.

But in the opposite direction several bigger stores were systematically looted.

Literally hundreds of big heavy plasma screen HD TVs were taken in a few hours. Along with hundreds of computers, laptops and Macs, speakers, DVD players, mobile phones. That was one heavy lift. It was done very cleanly. Leaving barely a stick behind.

A fleet of vans would have been needed to do this, with several hundred people loading and carrying. It could not have happened without considerable planning. It was a big operation. Most of the stores were cleared out via their rear service hatches which were forced open. These are accessed via ‘secure’ car parks and loading areas. It doesn’t take the ‘Brain of Britain’ (can I say that now?) to suss out that inside information assisted this process.

The shops looted on Tottenham High Road were clearly more random and reflexive. As was, I suspect, JD Sports. But Nike trainers are always a popular item for a ‘yoot wid’ a grievance, innit. As are 52 inch 3D HD Panasonic flat screen TVs. Having one of those on your wall, or a set of Dr Dre headphones around your neck takes away the pain (normally retailing at around £250 a pop – but to you my man, they are as free as a bird).

Also take a look at access point in the O2 shop above - it reminds me of how an Egyptian tomb robber would operate in the Valley of the Kings. Is that a clue?

We will hear a lot of hand wringing over the next few days – about how insensitive the police are and how ‘the community’ is angry. They will be met with more appeasement and more softy-softy. More money will be thrown at them (your taxes) as more businesses relocate to safer areas. It is all nonsense. The police shooting was no more and no less than an excuse for a looting spree.

These rioters had no concern for the area they inhabit as they feel no connection. They just happen to be living in the area now. They are like hunter gatherers, taking what they can when the opportunity arises. They are probably keeping their fingers crossed that the police shoot someone else to give them another excuse to do some cash free shopping.
A PIZZA HUT, A PIZZA HUT
KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN AND A PIZZA HUT

They are not totally mindless. They may be effectively eating their seed corn by indiscriminately destroying businesses that in many instances have been created by enterprising migrants. But they did not bite the hand that feeds them.

I could not help but notice that the KFC and Pizza Hut were left unscathed. Not so much as a broken window.

STAKEHOLDERS

The behaviour of this mob is in marked contrast to the behaviour shown by the English Defence League for example. EDL members have a natural break on their behaviour. The worst English yobs you could find anywhere would baulk at the destruction of their own cities. They have a generationally instinctive stake in this society. It is subliminal perhaps but this is what inhibits the sort of nihilistic destruction seen in Tottenham.

Much larger gatherings of EDL supporters may be slightly rowdy, but in the main they readily comply with police instructions. They may look very threatening and dangerous, but their actions do not actually live up to their appearance. This is simply because they are English.

I warned recently that the forces of law and order would not be of any use if it all goes up in the air. The Tottenham incident shows this clearly. If similar outbreaks took place across North London – in Edmonton, Wood Green, Holloway, Hackney, Finsbury Park, Kilburn, Walthamstow – then there would be a complete breakdown. The police would not be able to cope. The roads would be blocked and if you think the army could be called out and brought in then think again.

Some carrot cruncher nationalist types who have no idea what is going on in their own country doubted me. I know what is happening to this country. I see it every day. I am realistic enough to understand what has to be done to put a stop to it and to save poor England from eternal destruction. I have spelt out the solution.

I am telling you doubters now in clear terms. The solution I have spelt out is the ONLY solution. Every other option is pure drivel. It is dream world fantasy stuff.

I have published comments on this blog written by political fantasists who still can't get their heads around the reality of England in 2011. You need to shape up or ship out. As you are now you are wretchedly and pathetically useless.

53 comments:

  1. Hopefully I am neither a "carrot cruncher" nor a "political fantasist". First the tap of immigration has to be switched-off. Then those living here who are not British citizens and who have no right to be here under present legislation should be deported in a lawful fashion. As you have mentioned previously, withdrawl from the EU will be a big help in removing many who have flocked here in recent years. Then we have to look at who is still resident here. There are no easy answers to 50 odd years of non-European immigration into Britain but most nationalists in their guts will be uneasy at the continued presence of any of them.

    It is too early to say what exactly happened last night but I don't doubt that there was an element of organised criminality. However the fact that numerous serious disturbances have taken place in this area over the years points to a trend and I don't think that we need to be brain of Britain to see what the common factor is here. Over the coming weeks we will see those arrested coming to court and it will be interesting how much background info on these people that the media allows out.

    A word of constructive criticism: I feel that you were needlessly provocative in the way you ended this post. Let's leave the baiting and insults to less informed forums and continue with reasoned debate on the most vital of subjects.
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  2. Eddy,

    Press photographs of last night's riots show an overwhelmingly black/mullato participation on the streets. I believe you talk-up the "West Indians" because you do not want to repatriate them anymore. You think that is impossible. You think it is unacceptable to the English.

    The question, however, is not whether that is the case today, but how to make it not at all the case tomorrow.

    Political nationalism has never understood the wider engagement in which its success is actually possible. This is because it has been without proper intellectual antecedents from the beginning. Accordingly, political nationalists' due response to the past failure should be humility and a search not for fresh political vehicles but for a genuinely holistic and coherent strategy. Such can be constructed even out of the materials we have to hand today (less Mr Griffin and his coterie, it must be said).

    Our historical and political objective has not changed, and cannot change. Certainly, the mountain is steeper now and the light of day we have left in which to scale it is shorter. But that only pressages a more intelligent response, not a more pragmatic one.

    Your pragmaticsm, in any case, is not true pragmatism, for it is enforced by the circumstances which obtain within the BNP. Essentially, you are, with all the reformers, reacting to those circumstances and not to the true political challenge.

    I will leave it there. I do not believe you know "what will work". In fact, I know you don't. I urge you to begin asking questions, not supplying answers.
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  3. Brian CosworthAug 7, 2011 07:45 AM
    All right, all right! I'll bin my fantasies of a couple of water cooled tripod mounted heavy SMGs with endless belts of full metal jacket and join the English Democrats. They'll know what to do, at least I bloody well hope so. Err.. just what would they do, then??
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  4. "I have published comments on this blog written by political fantasists who still can't get their heads around the reality of England in 2011. You need to shape up or ship out. As you are now you are wretchedly and pathetically useless."

    And the answer is the English Democrats is it?

    Jesus Christ Eddy read what you are saying. DO you think for one minute that the solutions to this are anything to do with the ballot box? Why dont you give us some statistics or something, what you are good at.

    When the push comes to shove the Eng dems will be cowering behind their multi-cultural ideal of England and appeasement strategies.
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  5. There were bad riots in Notting Hill in 1958
    Twenty seven years later there were the Broadwater Farm riots.
    Twenty six years later there were these riots in Tottenham.
    Has the ‘mainstream’ nationalist response changed in all those years? No.
    It is still rooted in daydreams about racial purity and racial superiority. While those who dream these dreams are utterly impotent to do the slightest thing about it as they adopt a political position that is light years away from the mindset of the vast majority of their fellow countrymen.

    The solution – the only solution – is to adopt a sensible moderate approach that the people of this country can feel comfortable supporting. I have spelt this out in painstaking detail in previous articles.
    I spoke of impending civil disorder – it means that the moderate sensible approach must be adopted as a matter of urgency if any sort of solution is to be found. The alternative is our destruction. That is the only alternative. There isn’t another happy ending alternative out there. Not in the harsh real world that we all actually live in.
    I just know that plenty of ‘old school’ numbskulls will take entirely the wrong conclusion from these disturbances – namely that they can engage in their puristic fantasies.
    This is a serious matter - that is why strong talk is necessary.
    The ‘carrot crunchers’ are not necessarily living in some tranquil rural backwater – they are also people who have exiled their minds from reality.

    Whatever nationalists in their guts are uneasy about will be irrelevant unless than can bring the majority of their fellow countrymen along with them. Up to now what proportion has been impressed enough with organised nationalism to vote for it? Not many, yet opinion polls tell us there is disquiet. It is simply because the most prominent organised proponents of nationalism have been going about it the wrong way. It is as simple as that.

    And I drew a distinction about the West Indians as it is the case. They are influenced by a ‘British Imperial’ culture whereas almost none of the more recent arrivals are. There is a distinctly different attitude. There is a lack of subtlety amongst ‘old school’ nationalists that just treats them all as ‘wogs’ - one and the same.
    We actually ran our empire – very successfully it must be said - by recognising and understanding the many and varied differences that existed, even within the same territory.
    Eddy
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  6. What the hell would the English Dems do, from what I've seen of them close up they are more of the limp wristed UKIP types . In its hayday (long gone) the BNP had some very good people and was beginning to have political clout, however, it wasn't its political views that voters rejected but Griffin and the various clowns who were allowed to join and act in a stupid way.
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  7. So you can rescue Britain can you Eddie.
    You only left the BNP because Jefferson got your nose pushed out of the trough [even though you still have it in the MEP trough]
    Your electioneering is stolen from the Lib Dems, your on the payroll for BNP MEP. You were maybe a big thinker in the BNP but come on any one who can string 2 words together is a giant in the BNP.
    Your a charlatan who will prostitute your self out to any party as long as they will stick you on a pedestal. OOps sorry about the reference to prostitutes Eddy.
    NF BNP what a great CV eh. foolish English Democrats for taking you on board.
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  8. Enoch Powell was right. I know I always say that, & it may be getting a bit boring, but it's true.
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  9. Anon of 18:25, what we need in the nationalist camp is unity not factionalism. Butler has 30 years of nationalist graft behind him, how many
    others can equal or better that.We are all on the same side, if we're not we should be, so stop wasting your wit on one of the good guys.
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  10. It's way too late now! People are just going to have to live with it. end of!
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  11. Eddy never met you but why has Nick Griffins website been slow to comment, Even in Belvedere someome was stabbed by a 46 year old
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  12. Unacceptable. I have lost count of the times I have heard that word today.

    Having to drive to the post office clutching the card that says, "we tried to deliver a package today but, Blah, blah, blah, when I was at home all day.
    Having to wait for my hairdresser - for at least 30 minutes - despite the fact I make an appointment 6 weekas in advance.
    Having to dash to answer the phone when I'm preparing the evening meal, when there are two other members of the family in the house capable of answering it.
    Sorting copious amounts of laundry before putting it into the washing machine. None of which is mine.
    Making sure the house is secure before going to bed, even though I'm actually not the last one to do so.
    The above are just some everyday things I would term as unacceptable.
    UNACCEPTABLE is NOT a word that describes the actions of rampaging mindless louts destroying and burning a suburb of London.
    If the mereley mouthed politicians, police, social workers and apologists, can't bring themselves to say it I will.
    If you can't live within the law of the land. If you can't at least show some gratitude for your freedom, to come and go as you please, to enjoy the fruits of our generous social state, WHY stay.
    GO. BRITAIN DOES NOT WANT YOU.
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  13. I cannot help but notice those rioters, police haters who appear in the main to be ethnics have one thing the Nationalists don't have, that's the courage to fight, they are criminals but so are we if we said what we really think, we cower while they fight, white protesters usually get a good bashing from the police usually dressed as robo-cops, no kettling tactics for the ethnics the police know they will fight.
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  14. Good summary of the events I think. Especially this part:

    "The police adopted a ‘softly-softly’ approach after this and the ‘protestors’ took it as a sign of weakness. The several hundred strong mob took the non-visible police approach as appeasement – as they always would. Had the police officer in charge had the slightest understanding of what he was dealing with it might have been a different story. I have no doubt that the local police chiefs have spent their entire careers being lectured by liberal ‘do-gooders’ and as a result do not have a clue what to do in such circumstances".

    You can just picture it can't you. Every local copper shitting herself (probably), not that they might get hurt in a riot, but that they might get suspended for not having been 'liberal' enough with their tactics. Therefore stand back and allow the 'locals' to burn down the buildings that serve them. The BBC and Guardian etc falling over themselves to find a way to blame white people and the police for the events, thereby encouraging more of the same events to occur by fanning the flames of resentment and violence which are integral parts of collective black psyche. Its almost funny how lefties actually create many of these problems by continually falling over themselves to tell these people that they are oppressed victims, and treating them like children who cannot be held accountable for their own bad behaviour, filling their heads with stories about nasty white policemen shooting innocent little dark skinned people just for the fun of it. I know I've been saying we need to adopt a more professional and adult approach but I'm afraid I can't help it. This riot has put a smile back on my face this weekend. I'm sorry....I know I shouldn't but we haven't had much to laugh about recently and the KFC Uprisings of 2011 does bring the problems we talk about to the fore and give us great opportunities to have a laugh at liberals and the BBC as they desperately try to find people who can provide an anti white Marxist explanation for mindless violence and looting. We've got to have some fun haven't we! The worst thing about it was that one of the buildings that got burnt down was a 1930s building demonstrating a little piece of our heritage.

    Your comparisons with the EDL are interesting too. Its interesting that when the EDL have got a little bit roudy, (very minor in comparison to this), we do not see the BBC falling over itself to interview EDL sympathisers and to provide an explanation for their anger. Rank hypocrisy there for all to see.

    Manxman
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  15. Eddy
    overwhelmingly the Afro-Carribean is defined and defines himself through British slavery, really im talking about the Jamaican, not allAfro-Carribeans where a poduct of British slavery, some where a product of French slavery etc etc, the common demominator here is European slavery over the African, because those people would never had existed in the West Indies if it wasn't for slavery.
    Naive is all i can say regarding your claim that the Afro-Carribean is influenced by a 'British Imperial culture'.
    He is overwhelmingly influencd by his hatred of the British slave master.
    The Rasterfarian came about originally when runaway slaves escaped into the mountains of Jamaica, these Rastarfarians never ever surrendered to the British, there hair was left to grow long and matted and they had everything they needed in the mountains to survive including Cannabis, they only ever came down from the mountains once Jamaica got Independence, these people are not influenced at all by 'British Imperial' culture, but there influence over modern Jamaicans within Jamaica and the Jamaican diaspora is substantial, your looking at old style Jamaicans, first generation Jamaicans listened to country and western music, later Jamaicans were influenced by Bob Marley, who was influenced by Rastafarianism, that is fundamentally anti establishment and will allways be anti-British, they claim to be anti-violent, but the truth is in one's actions rather than what one says.
    Some of the ideology of the Rastafarian has become dominant within Jamaican culture inside Jamaica and also within the Jamaican Diaspora.
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
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  16. You are quite right about the old West Indians who first came here being paragons of virtue in comparison to this lot. Whilst their children and grandchildren are massively over represented as perpetrators and victims of gun and knife crime, it is certainly noticeable that in recent years the reputation for violence amongst 2nd and 3rd generation Caribbean immigrants has been overshadowed by the new arrivals from Africa and everywhere else.

    This is evidenced by a look at the names of people involved in violent crimes recorded in the newspapers or it is obvious to anyone who has lived amongst these 'communities' for any length of time. The African kids used to be regarded as relatively passive but it has not taken them long to 'get into the swing of things' over here. There is quite a bit of friction between people of Carribean decent and Africans, particularly Somalis. Such friction appears to be forgotten however when there is an opportunity for a bit of violence and looting excused by police brutality and 'waysism'. Lee Jasper has been stiring tensions in the 'black community' since he spotted an opportunity when 'Smiley Culture' knifed himself during a drugs raid by police earlier this year. Since then they have been implying that a copper knifed him! Ridiculous beyond belief but quite believeable to many of these people. As stated, its the lefty liberals and paid 'black community leaders' who fan the flames of hatred and resentment which burns underneath the surface of the 'black community' at all times. Rather than encouraging them to take responsibility for themselves they are encouraged to blame the white man, the police, the state, the teachers etc etc. A minority of more intelligent and open minded black people are wise to this and recognise liberal lefties patronising attitude and their own 'leaders' provocations for what they are. First generation black immigrants had cultures rooted in the church and a respect for Britain, education and hard work. White liberals told them they were depised victims who could never succeed because of racism and many of their children bought into this. In the same way we have been encouraged to turn our backs on anything connected with our history and civilisation, (family, Christianity, responsibility, history, pride, responsibility etc), blacks have been encouraged to throw away any vaguely positive aspects of their culture and to replace it with a culture of gangsta bollocks, abdicating all responsibility for themselves and their families to the state and chasing quick gratification from material things like Nike and alloy hub caps on hire purchase cars. In this sense their culture and community has also suffered from the effects of white liberal/ Marxist ideology combined with the worst excesses of capitalist consumerism. Its the same liberal dogma that caused the police to stand back and allow these thugs to burn Tottenham, that allows blacks kids to walk around London carrying knives and stabbing each other and which prevents social workers from intervening to help vulnerable black infants like Victoria Climbie and stops teachers from disciplining black kids in school. Liberalism has helped black people to destroy themselves.

    Manxman
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  17. Pathetic Eddy, truly pathetic.

    The OVERWHELMING majority of these disgusting rioters are from Afro-Caribbean heritage. This can be clearly seen from the huge amount of footage being shown. The man who was shot by police, Mark Duggan, was Afro-Caribbean and was well known amongst the community. Having observed the march myself last night, nearly every person who was at the march, which totalled 300 was Afro-Caribbean. The huge attachment of youths who later arrived were also Afro-Caribbean.

    Stop dismissing things because it doesn't fit with your political agenda. The Afro-Caribbean community has rioted every decade;

    London (1958) - 1958 Notting Hill race riots
    London (1976) - Notting Hill
    London (April 1981) - 1981 Brixton riot
    London (1985) - Peckham riot
    London (September 1985) - 1985 Brixton riot
    London (October 1985) - Broadwater Farm riot

    And now this. CALL A SPADE A SPADE. The community has serious issues with violent youth who are overwhelming responsible for street crime here in London and many other major cities e.g Birmingham, Nottingham, Manchester, Leeds etc.

    David from Enfield.
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  18. Now it's going off in and around Westfield shopping centre, Shepherds Bush.
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
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  19. The Norwegian killings led to a lot of ridiculous remarks coming from ‘nationalists’.
    This riot has as well. People are unable to contain themselves and think rationally under the slightest stress.
    We will certainly see more disturbances over time. Will people lurch all over the place each time it happens, frothing at the mouth?

    I happened to be in Tottenham all day until just before the rioting took place and the morning after. I know the dynamics of the area. Tottenham is no longer dominated by West Indians that is a fact. They do not get on with Africans or the various Moslem groups from a wide variety of nationalities who cleave together. They do not get on with the Eastern Europeans.
    They do tend to look more to what’s left of the white community now. This is a simple fact. It is actually the same in the East End. That whatever young whites are left (which is very few) no longer speak in a London accent but talk more like the West Indians is of no relevance to this. It is a product of the collapse in the self confidence of these residual white communities.
    That is what you see - the West Indians and the whites tend to group together.
    If you actually look closely at the footage the faces tend to be either clearly African or that indeterminate appearance that can apply to anyone from Casablanca to Khartoum to Kabul to Kosovo.

    The ‘gangsta’ was of West Indian origin but I do not believe for a moment that the rioting and looting was carried out because of any genuine sympathy for him. That was a pretext.

    I will repeat this and make it quite clear. Unless you are able to sublimate your rage and channel you emotion in a constructive manner - in a manner that will appeal to your fellow countrymen - then all your words and actions, all your bogus hard line sitting room posturing, ain’t worth a tin of beans.

    Eddy
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  20. Not one white person will think " gosh oh golly there might be a member of the coloureds who indeed will join
    our patriot organization ". With floods of riots on the horizon, to take a nice non-white into a group is stupidity at its highest level. All rhetoric aside, it boils down to what the white eye ball sees: flames and more flames .
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  21. New York Times

    "In Tottenham, the center of the rioting, residents spoke of twin perils that had converged to leave their streets scarred and smoldering Sunday.

    Frustration in this impoverished neighborhood, as with many others in Britain, has mounted as the government’s austerity budget has forced deep cuts in services and aid. At the same time, a widely held disdain for law enforcement here, where a large Afro-Caribbean population has felt singled out by the police for abuse, has only intensified through the drumbeat of scandal that has wracked Scotland Yard in recent weeks and led to the resignation of the force’s two top commanders.

    The riot was the latest in what has turned out to be a season of unrest in Britain, with multiple demonstrations escalating into violence in recent months. And there was not long to wait until a new one broke out: on Sunday night, in the northern borough of Enfield, the police were out in force to crack down on looters amid a demonstration hastily organized on Twitter posts, the police said in a statement.

    The incident in Tottenham began as a small and peaceful march, in which residents gathered outside a police station to protest the killing of a local man, Mark Duggan, in shooting by police officers last week. Scotland Yard has said that Mr. Duggan, who was riding in a taxi at the time of the shooting, was the subject of a “pre-planned operation” by officers. The policemen involved in the incident have been quoted in newspapers as saying that they had come under fire, which slightly wounded one of the officers, before they began to shoot.

    It was unclear where things went wrong Saturday night, and there were conflicting accounts.

    A statement by Scotland Yard said the flashpoint came when police cars were attacked at 8:20 p.m. by “certain elements” — a phrase that other police comments suggested meant local troublemakers who used the protest as a chance to act out violently. But Tottenham residents talked about rumors of a physical confrontation between a police officer and a 16-year-old girl that enraged the demonstrators.

    Quickly, the march turned into a pitched between between hundreds of police officers, some on horses, and equal numbers of rioters, with hoods up and bandannas across their faces. Looting throughout northern London and continued past dawn, leaving streets littered with glass. In daylight, residents emerged to survey buildings, many considered landmarks, that had been left gutted and smoldering.

    A local man, who said he was bus driver but did not want to give his name for fear of reprisal, warned that, unless endemic youth unemployment in Tottenham was curbed, “this will happen again. These kids don’t care. They don’t have to pay for this damage, we do. Working people do. What do they have to lose?”

    “This country has changed,” said Aaron Biber, 89, as he stooped to pick through the debris of his ransacked barber shop, which he said he had run for 41 years. “We’ve lost something.”

    Though the rioters, he said, were “lunatics,” he felt that the police had stood by while his business was savaged. It was a common complaint — many voiced concern that looters in other areas of London had been allowed to smash and steal for several hours before officers arrived.

    The police force said, in a statement, that there “was no indication that the protest would deteriorate into the levels of criminal and violent disorder that we saw.” The force’s priority had been to preserve life, the statement said, though the looting was “regrettable.” It said a major inquiry had been started to find and arrest those responsible for the violence".
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  22. This is the big difference between European
    people and British people. If a riot like this
    occurs in Paris all the white French understand
    it for what it is, but when it happens here the
    British have so many different takes on it. The
    lefty/liberal is so scared at having to 'call a
    spade a spade' that he won't accept that blacks
    cause these situations all by themselves.A
    distorted liberal coward cannot show aggression or even disapproval towards blacks, it's just something they are incapable of doing, so they turn the situation around 180 degrees and blame it on whites.That distortion they can live with.
    Unfortunately there are thousands of these sick
    bastards all over the place and crucially in positions of influence. The way to destroy them
    is to debate with them as much as possible, they can NEVER win the argument and have to resort to accusations of racism. That's why they won't give a platform to nationalists, because once the racism accusation is exposed for what it is [ astifler of debate ], their arguments fall flat.
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  23. What England needs now, is not the Brokeback Coalition, Labour, any other political parties, or "the EDL," with their Israeli flags and we stand with Israel signs, what we need is a strongman, who rules with a firm hand, stops immigration, abolishes the multicultural disaster, leaves the EU, stops being America`s Poodle, and puts this country FIRST.
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  24. Eddy why the abuse towards other nationalists? If English nationalists are not convinced by the EDP why should former members of the BNP. You have made yor decision let others make theirs.
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  25. Remember Ian Tomlinson, killed by the police, white protesters get beaten, A black man killed by the police the police get beaten, there is a message there somewhere. These police murders always start with a police lie. ACPO have a lot to answer for.
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  26. David from Enfield, "pathetic truly pathetic." Having just watched the video of last nights Enfield riots, it appears that most of the rioters there appeared to be 'wiggas'. White kids who have lost their own identity to such an extent and feel so emasculated and intimidated that they have to try to adopt the dominant youth culture in Britain's big cities which is black/ hip hop culture. That is truly pathetic and sad. They were out throwing bricks in Enfield trying to impress their black counterparts and ensure their area retains its competitiveness in terms of its reputation for violent crime. Bizarre but this is the topsy turvey multi culti liberal society Britain has sunk into, (temporarily we hope).

    May I recommend a website for those of us who like to keep in touch with what is gwanning on da street u git mi blud. Nuff manz wotch dis

    http://spifftv.com/

    This is the degenerate 'subculture' which white kids (and to a lesser extent some Muslim kids) in Britains cities now subscribe. Things are not straight forward black and white. The situation is more complicated than that and requires a more thoughtful approach. That said, yes, black 'subcultures' are dominant at 'street level' and part of this subculture is a celebration of crime which is seen as some form of resistance to a white society which most (but not all) of them will never be able to integrate into.
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  27. David – what a strange remark - this is my blog and therefore my mouthpiece and people comment here to discuss things and sometimes I reply. That’s how it works.
    We are in a serious situation and most nationalists of all varieties are showing themselves to be utterly incapable of making rational decisions. Most of their activity – their contribution – will be utterly wasted, fruitless or even counter-productive. It is my absolute duty to point them in the right direction – this is not a game and time is short.
    For example someone has just said we need a strongman. Who and how is this person going to be put in a position so he can act?
    Eddy
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  28. I'm sick of the so called 'hardline' nationalists who I regard as being responsible for the BNP's failure over 30 years. Obsessed with their own fantasies and intent on impressing each other, they have failed to find a way to connect with the public and they continue to hold back the movement, insult those of us who are in touch with reality and seem to insist that Nationalism remains a small social club for odd bods and the socially alienated. The hardliners deserve to have the piss taken out of them because they have become a joke and they seem to take pride in being a joke. Hardliners appear too thick to understand that a focus on policy (rather than ideology and racial rhetoric) does not make you a liberal, it makes you potentially electable. Being unelectable is selling out.
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  29. I am aware that this blog is your mouth piece and you belive that the English Democrats is the right direction to go in. I am just pointing out that if English nationalists are not convinced by the EDP then why should british nationalists. Calling them fantasists is not the way to win them over. We in the EPP fully understand the situation we are in. If we thought that the EDP was the only show in town we would pack up tomorrow but we don't believe it is unless there is a radical change within it.
    You have to remember Eddy we are on the same side. I am sure our paths will meet one day. After all its all about England and the English people.
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  30. I am tempted to suggest that the worse the riots get the better it is for all of us here regardless of party affiliation. Riots further strengthen our case. I'd encourage the English Dems in London to get out a leaflet calling for the rounding up of rioters, the immediate deporatation of criminal foreigners, minimum 10-year terms for those caught attacking the Police and the use of tear gas, water cannon and similar devices to shut the rioters down. That's the political response required and this needs to happen in each of our communities as soon as. Ann C, English Democrat
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  31. Eddy I completely agree with your take on things here. The fact is that British Nationalism at this moment is a totally failed project, completely rejected by the majority of Britons. Yet still most nationalists are more concerned with being proven right on race issues than evolving and adapting to the circumstances in Britain today.

    This riot in Tottenham isn't just a reflection of the catastrophic failure of "the rainbow society", it is also a damning indication of how British Nationalists have abjectly failed to learn, evolve and adapt over the years and become a real force in British politics.

    If we carry on doing the same things, we will carry on failing and we'll remain in the political wilderness and our country will die.

    Reconquista.
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  32. That liberal left utter cobblers quote from the New York Times (aka The American Guardian) is a perfect example of the media bias we're up against. As expected, the riots are apparently the fault of the police and the government. Why do people buy newspapers that print such complete garbage? Is it because they want to feel guilty? Do they feel ashamed of being white? Are they so convinced that beneath the skin all ethnic groups are the same that consistently disproportionate levels of violent crime perpetrated by blacks - wherever in the world they are - cannot be the fault of the blacks themselves?
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  33. Interesting blog of people's mobile phone footage of the riots all over London here

    http://pictur.eu/riots/
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  34. "I will repeat this and make it quite clear. Unless you are able to sublimate your rage and channel you emotion in a constructive manner - in a manner that will appeal to your fellow countrymen - then all your words and actions, all your bogus hard line sitting room posturing, ain’t worth a tin of beans"

    Very true and I am guilty of failing quite often in this respect myself. Whilst I encourage everybody to tone down their rhetoric I have a tendency to go into rant mode quite quickly when faced with the opposition or even people who are disinterested in politics. The veins start bulging out of my head and I am aware that conversations stop and a deathly silence envelopes the room when I finish speaking. I have to do breathing exercises to contain my rath. I think Green Arrow probably needs some help in this regard too.
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  35. I remember the 1981 riots. Politicians and media tried to pretendit was not a Black riot but a "Youth" riot because Whites were involved.
    Enoch explained that when it comes to rac e logic goes out the window. He said the way to assess who were the cause was analysis like in medical science when trying to discover something. Look for the common denominator. The common denominator is that the riots take place in Black areas. As for fantasising it is my belief that we work towards becoming strong and then deport these troublesome and violent people. They do not belong here and they behave like this everywhere they are. To say these streets belong to Blacks, Eddy, is to betray our people.

    http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/zeitgeist/the-flash-mob-phenomenon/
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  36. Are we seeing the beggining of a civil war or a revolution?
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
    P.S. Surely Cameron is finished now, he refuses to come back home
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  37. No Jamie - calm down - there may be more trouble yet, but this is an excuse to grab stuff and have a bit of fun destroying things. Cameron will not be that badly affected. Thatcher certainly wasn't with a series of very bad disturbances and deaths.
    Eddy
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  38. What is happening in Tottenham is the result of the plague called multiculturalism/uncontrolled immigration. A black thug is victimized and the Zionist owned media shows and tell u only what they want to. Oh, Great Britain, what has come of u!
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  39. I am calm, this is spreading much more than under thatcher. These people are used to handouts, these handouts are drying up. They only know about something for nothing. If cctv starts to be targeted, if it hasn't already, the authority's will become blind. Can they afford to replace cctv on-mass, darkness is descending now, the old bill will be retreating everywhere you mark my words.
    These riots today are/were in broad daylight, they continued in Tottenham in broad daylight also, there is something different about this, it could be more extreme.
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
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  40. Eddy just a question, ok let's say that the majority involved in the Tottenham riots were not Afro-Caribbean. So why is it now that we have Brixton, Corydon, Hackney, lewisham all ablaze now? These are areas with very large Afro-Caribbean communities and YET AGAIN we see wave after wave of their youth rioting. Yes there are a handful of wiggers and some others but the majority are black Afro-Caribbean.

    To tackle a problem, you have to first except there is one. I'm not sure what giving a hall pass to this community is going to achieve.

    David from Enfield.
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  41. the furniture store in croyden that was set alight was run by the same family for 5 generations, there name is Reeves, it is one of the oldest English names on record. It goes back to the Anglo-Saxon period, the two reeves brothers just spoke on sky news, explaining how there lives have been destroyed, they employed something like 27 people, the building was approx 150 years old, it was destroyed in minutes.
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
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  42. I see Ken Livingstone is trying to capitalise on the riots by arsekissing the ethnics, trotting out the usual PC drivel about how hard done by they are, disadvantaged, oppressed by wicked waycism etc etc (Yawn) etc.
    Livingstone is a shameless piece of **** who will say or do anything to keep himself in ministerial luxury.

    But Livingstone's antics can teach us something, and that is that these riots can become one of the main issues for the next GLA.
    Barnbrook must have a response, and must emphasise what the court 'journalists' of the controlled media are at pains to avoid mentioning, that these are "Race Riots".

    If You Want A Looter As A Neighbour, Vote Labour.
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  43. There was a time when the trade unions ruled the roost, with the cry 'one out all out'. We live in a time now when ultra capialism rules the roost through mass immigration, the ultra capitalism, isn't satisfied with mass immigration, they need wave after wave of more cheep labour, which comes from wave after wave of more mass immigration.
    We have today the Industrial revolution of countries that just a few years ago where nothing but farming nations.
    China has a population of 1.3 billion people, the industrial revolution there is changing the world. Chinese labour is extremely cheap, as i said there are 1.3 billion of them, so if you combine the E.U and the US and Canada together there is still less than half of the Chinese population, approx 600 million.
    These Countries cannot compete with China and remember China is just one country going through this new Industrial revolution, there is India 1.1 billion, Brazil with a growing massive population also.
    Big business dictates(the so called way forward) the way forward today and dictates to governments like ours for example.
    They demand cheaper and cheaper labour with the threat of 'if you don't supply it to us, we will close down and move to emerging Countries, like China for example'. So Governments like ours for example and it doesn't matter what Government is in power, Labour, Tory, Con/Lib, they have all been spineless in there approach to big business. They have all bent over backwards to facilitate big business, with wave after wave of mass immigration to supply big business with cheap labour, to stupidly try and compete with emerging Countries like China. There is only one answer to this, it is called trade barriers, we cannot compete it is as simple as that, the free market approach is ok if we all come from an even playing field, but it is so obvious that we don't.
    This has lead to a situation where our own young men and women can never afford to get on the mortgage ladder on the wages being offered, have you seen what there paying these youngsters on the so called minimum wage. Of course im talking about Youngsters with no or little qualifications, they are just cannon fodder for big business, they come from broken family's, there growing up with Afro-Carribean youth who are also cannon fodder for big business, these people would struggle at the best of times with no mass immigration, but when you look at what is happening with mass immigration from eastern Europe and also from anywhere really, these youngsters are not even marginalised, they have been totaly thrown to the Wolves, which is ultra Capitalism that is completely out of control.
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
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  44. If the old bill can't protect areas like Harrow and wembley, where there are high Muslim populations, that love to own a high street shop. The Muslims will start up vigilant groups to protect there property, maybe this is where so called flash points of racial conflicts will start between Afro-Carribeans and white's against the Asian vigilanties.
    Jamie, West Hert's, London flighter.
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  45. All you mercenarys and dogs of war,forget Mogadishu,Kabul,Bengahzi,or Baghdad,your
    services may be required in riot torn London.
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  46. No, Mr Butler you're the deluded one.

    The first arrival West Indians were and stil aren't all pro-British and/or pro-White either. If you listen to the survivors among them, they continue to relate over and over how they were discriminated against upon arrival as if the natives of any country should welcome intruders without natural reservations and suspicion.

    Tell me, did the Indians and Africans welcome White intruders into their lands with open arms? Well! Ah, but then again, their lands were returned to them during the course of the late 19th century and following 20th, after those natives grew wary enough of the White presence in their ancestral homelands and resolved to do something about it which they subsequently did.

    Furthermore, Marxism and its evil programming agenda (brainwashing) hadn't immediately seized power and commenced terrorizing them and their future generations into across-the-board racial and cultural self-loathing and self-guilt. Had it now!!!

    I'm afraid the only answer is compulsory repatriation and it matters not whether the bulk of the indigenous White inhabitants desire it or not. At some juncture in the not-too- distant future, they'll be made to reveal their true loyalties or be forced to leave along with the intruders, in which case, I reckon, the vast bulk of them will quickly come round to the idea of that very solution, don't you!
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  47. Jamie, the Rastafarian 'religion' was started in the 1930s, it had very little to do with slavery.
    You are mixing it up with the Maroons, who were runaway slaves dating from the Spanish period in Jamaican history.Later on, when Britain ruled that island, the Maroons under their leader Cudjoe were a big thorn in the side of our army.They were never fully subdued.
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  48. And the Maroons allied themselves with the British authorities in helping gold old ‘angman Eyre suppress the Jamaica insurrection in 1865.

    And to Mr or Mrs Anonymous – Am I deluded? I don’t remember suggesting the first West Indian immigrants were pro British or pro white. What an odd claim to make.
    Check your history – you will find difficulty in finding a non-white colony that gained its independence in the 19th century.
    But more significantly you then say that compulsory repatriation is the only answer it doesn’t matter if the indigenous white people support this or not. You are going to force them all on your oewn I suppose.
    My God!

    Jamie – you now seem to be accepting that whites and blacks (West Indians anyway) hang out together – but that they will fight Pakistanis?
    That isn’t much of a race war – and Jamie – no race war is about to break out. A race war would look very different from this. I tend to think there will never be a ‘race war’ anyway – but that is a different subject. We have seen some Asians involved, while some defending their shops (and die in the process). As have some Turks - but know in other areas Turks have been involved in looting. We have seen Eastern European whites and a few scummy English whites involved. We have seen African blacks and some West Indian blacks involved. What we have seen is a breakdown in law and order and rampant criminality. This is what happens in a state that has lost the bonds that unite it. Inevitably most of those who involve themselves in these disturbances are those who have little connection to our society.

    David from Enfield – all I know is the bulk of the rioters and looters in Tottenham were not West Indian – unlike in 1985. All the areas you mentioned are high immigrant areas – black no longer necessarily means West Indian. I would guess there are a lot more African sin London now than West Indians.

    Eddy
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  49. This notion that the Afro Caribbean people are really white people in black skins is an assiduously cultivated myth, much espoused by the older generation of white wishy -washy liberals who have had this idea constantly drummed into their heads for over forty years by the state propaganda organisations. Propaganda and advertising really works, even when people think they are rejecting the message they are unconsciously absorbing that same message. The Afro Caribbean population are not allies in any way for British or English nationalists. They just seem that way. A nationalist movement should get this fact right at the beginning. Quite apart from the fact that it is patronising and insulting to assume the the Afro Caribbean s have no agenda of their own.
    The Afro Caribbean s are a distinct culture on their own and should be accepted as such.
    Also, it is nothing more than sheer arrogance that the English- British assume that everyone wants to be like them. I have contact with people from other cultures living in the UK and believe me, in my opinion, only my opinion, based on listening. Something English Nationalists find very hard to do, these people do not like the English. They come up with some very cogent reasons as well. But that is not the subject of this letter.
    |It is time that English people looked at themselves in the mirror and saw themselves as others see them. It is really not that hard an exercise. But I do not expect it will go down well with English Democrats or Nationalists generally. This is one feels one of the reasons why Nationalism in the UK has fallen flat on its face so often.
    However, as they say, try try and try again and it will work. I think this time it might work
    I hope Mr Butler will help to put some proper backbone into the English Democrats, because by heaven they need it.
    Graham
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  50. "And to Mr or Mrs Anonymous – Am I deluded? I don’t remember suggesting the first West Indian immigrants were pro British or pro white. What an odd claim to make."

    My point that they weren't pro-British and/or pro-White was in response to your nonsense statment that the original lot are allegedly now so well integrated, that 'in a real sense', they own the streets of Broadwater Farm as well.

    Do you think that these Caribbeans have suddenly become so integrated that they might have long since learnt to be deeply grateful to their White hosts and perhaps even acquired some modicum of long-overdue respect for them too. Well!

    "Check your history – you will find difficulty in finding a non-white colony that gained its independence in the 19th century."

    Examples: Argentina, 1825, Greater Columbia, 1819, Mexico, 1821, Peru, 1824, Cuba, 1898 albeit independence from Spain mainly, but we have them swarming all over European homelands today.

    "But more significantly you then say that compulsory repatriation is the only answer it doesn’t matter if the indigenous white people support this or not. You are going to force them all on your oewn I suppose.
    My God!"


    When the White indigenous peoples of the UK and Europe finally fall well into minority status, we shall be facing exactly the same outcome as the Whites of South Africa.

    If you care to study the nature of contemporary events, ie, (the rapes and slayings of Whites) happening in the US and across every European ancestral homeland where uncontrolled non-White invasion has been enabled, we are all looking at the onset of the South African scenario as I speak.

    Are you still in favour of permitting non-Whites to remain in White homelands. Even in comparatively moderate numbers (continually added to via their prolific procreational tendencies), when it is manifestly obvious to anyone of even average intelligence that their presence is highly detrimental and downright dangerous to the survival of Whites within the boundaries of their own territories everywhere.

    South Africa should tell you that! If it doesn't then your current stance and personal perspective on the subject, is highly suspect indeed.

    Are you, by any chance, in the pay of any specific organisation?
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  51. "Also, it is nothing more than sheer arrogance that the English- British assume that everyone wants to be like them."

    Really! Is it then not equally sheer arrogance on the part of, for example, Muslim and Black invaders who, having been emboldened over the past 40 years by the Marxist Liberal White-hating ruling elite, for attempting to foist their way of life, beliefs and cultures not just upon one, but all four indigenous British nationalities. Well, my clever dick! What is your answer to the above question? I'm waiting!

    "I have contact with people from other cultures living in the UK and believe me, in my opinion, only my opinion, based on listening. Something English Nationalists find very hard to do, these people do not like the English. They come up with some very cogent reasons as well."

    Referring to your remark contact with peoples of other cultures. Don't we all. It's nigh-on impossible not to these days since they're perpetually in our faces no matter in what direction the indigenous turn. Moreover, entertaining sentiments of dislike of a host nation, in your words, the English, is the equivalent of harbouring ill-intent towards that nation and is even more reason why the non-White hordes should be rounded up and collectively deported back to their own ancestral homelands.

    "It is time that English people looked at themselves in the mirror and saw themselves as others see them. It is really not that hard an exercise. But I do not expect it will go down well with English Democrats or Nationalists generally."

    More aptly, I'd say, it's time you personally took a good look at yourself in the mirror. If you are ethnically English then there is only one conclusion one can truly come to and that is that you are a self-loathing White Marxist Liberal.

    "This is one feels one of the reasons why Nationalism in the UK has fallen flat on its face so often."

    Total nonsense!

    It is chiefly because Whites have been brainwashed and terrorized into hating themselves and then coerced into kow-towing to ALL non-White invaders under the threat of being arrested, charged with so-called racism, dragged through the courts, faced with subsequent loss of livelihood, home AND even seizure by the courts of their offspring.

    However, since employment positions including high-profile are disproportionally being dished out to non-White invaders due to overt legalised anti-White racial discrimination by our own indigenious ruling elite, the exercise of which is also extended to the non-White invaders themselves, at some juncture in the future, Whites are going to find themselves living in make-shift shacks in shanty towns as witnessed in South Africa, as I speak.

    Perhaps the majority of the indigenous British may yet wake up in time and cast off the shackles of tyrannical Marxist Political Correctness, and proceed to act accordingly before it's too late. Fingers crossed!
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  52. "Also, it is nothing more than sheer arrogance that the English- British assume that everyone wants to be like them."

    Really! Is it then not equally sheer arrogance on the part of, for example, Muslim and Black invaders who, having been emboldened over the past 40 years by the Marxist Liberal White-hating ruling elite, for attempting to foist their way of life, beliefs and cultures not just upon one, but all four indigenous British nationalities. Well, my clever dick! What is your answer to the above question? I'm waiting!

    "I have contact with people from other cultures living in the UK and believe me, in my opinion, only my opinion, based on listening. Something English Nationalists find very hard to do, these people do not like the English. They come up with some very cogent reasons as well."

    Referring to your remark contact with peoples of other cultures. Don't we all. It's nigh-on impossible not to these days since they're perpetually in our faces no matter in what direction the indigenous turn. Moreover, entertaining sentiments of dislike of a host nation, in your words, the English, is the equivalent of harbouring ill-intent towards that nation and is even more reason why the non-White hordes should be rounded up and collectively deported back to their own ancestral homelands.

    "It is time that English people looked at themselves in the mirror and saw themselves as others see them. It is really not that hard an exercise. But I do not expect it will go down well with English Democrats or Nationalists generally."

    More aptly, I'd say, it's time you personally took a good look at yourself in the mirror. If you are ethnically English then there is only one conclusion one can truly come to and that is that you are a self-loathing White Marxist Liberal.

    "This is one feels one of the reasons why Nationalism in the UK has fallen flat on its face so often."

    Total nonsense!

    It is chiefly because Whites have been brainwashed and terrorized into hating themselves and then coerced into kow-towing to ALL non-White invaders under the threat of being arrested, dragged through the courts, faced with subsequent loss of livelihood, home AND even seizure by the courts of their offspring.

    However, since employment positions including high-profile are disproportionally being dished out to non-White invaders due to overt legalised anti-White racial discrimination by our own indigenious ruling elite, the exercise of which is also extended to the non-White invaders themselves, at some juncture in the future, Whites are going to find themselves living in make-shift shacks in shanty towns as witnessed in South Africa, as I speak.

    Perhaps the majority of the indigenous British may yet wake up in time and cast off the shackles of tyrannical Marxist Political Correctness, and proceed to act accordingly before it's too late. Fingers crossed!
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  53. Syntec
    In the build up to the riots in the 1980s there was perceptible inter-communal tension. This year there was very little. I have had to find work these past couple of months across inner north London and have come into close contact with people of a whole variety of different ethnic backgrounds – very few of whom are ethnically English as there are very few left.
    In the early 1980s West Indians were the dominant ethnic minority community. This is no longer the case. Virtually all the younger whites that you see are Eastern European and there are a lot of Africans. They have a much younger age profile than the West Indians and I strongly suspect that most black rioters are African rather than West Indian. There are also a lot of Moslem types from a variety of countries.
    You can tell a lot about how people respond to you in person. West Indians interact on more friendly terms with me as an English person than do any of the other foreign groups (including white Eastern Europeans). There are a variety of reasons for this, but it is a fact that is backed up by plenty of other evidence.
    On Tottenham High Road, a number of West Indians have established businesses, partly because for a long period post 1985 other businessmen were naturally reluctant to open up in that area. That is another reason why West Indians will have been less prevalent among the rioters on Saturday night in Tottenham High Road. We have seen Pakistanis defending high streets where there are a lot of Pakistani shops, and Turks defending high streets where there are a lot of Turkish run shops. Why would anyone think it different in Tottenham?

    People in the old fashioned nationalist camp have always had a fixation with West Indians. Where did I say or even imply that West Indians would be ‘deeply grateful’ to us.

    The Latin American colonies that gained independence from Spain did so as a result of the Spanish colonists rebelling against their homeland rather like the United States did against us. The only genuine instance of a non-white colony gaining independence is Haiti.

    If I express an opinion it is invariably because I am basing it on personal knowledge, rather than just waffle on after half digesting a book.

    Your bedsit style rantings offer no solution to the problems faced with this country. The only way for you to achieve your ends is by closing your eyes and having three wishes. You could join a party like the National Front and see how successful you are. See if you can convince your fellow countrymen to support you. Without that support you will not implement one line of your program. While you waste your time I will get on with the real work of saving my people by working with other people who have a realistic view of what can and what can’t be done.

    While you wait out doing nothing, sitting with your fingers crossed in the wings – I will follow the example of successful nationalist parties like the revitalised Front National and the Lega Nord.

    Eddy
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