The trouble is the people who make these claims have never won anything before and so do not know what a pending victory looks like. Instead they rely on smoke and mirrors. Bluff and bluster.
The result was:
Labour 1,113 (57.8%)
BNP 593 (30.8%)
UKIP 91 (4.7%)
Conservative 81 (4.2%)
Liberal Democrat 48 (2.5%)
Goresbrook ward regularly features by-elections. The last two were both caused by the same useless Labour councillor who was elected in May 2010, so it is remarkable really that Labour were able to retain the seat.
There was a notorious by-election in July 2010 which Clive 'Rizzle Kicks' Jefferson sabotaged. Rizzle Kicks effectively ran this campaign as well and sent a text out to BNP officials calling it 'The most important election in the party's recent history'. He also said 'and the ward is winnable' and 'If we take Goresbrook we will take a GLA seat'. Well what now?
He called for '40 people to run an effective election day operation'.
I know Goresbrook well as I ran a by-election here back in September 2004. On that occasion the BNP won and polled a record 51.9%. The polling day operation that day was slick and we were out in force as the activists were well motivated, well led and knew what they were doing. How times change. Now they haven't got the will or the bodies.
The BNP result yesterday was the worst ever BNP result in Goresbrook ward. That tells you how well they will do in the GLA election.
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ReplyDeleteGriffin's degenerate and money grasping betrayal has hollowed out the BNP to nothing. It took him a long time to destroy the best chance that nationalism had prior to 2010 but he managed it in the end.
ReplyDelete30% is a great result. Despite the battered state of the BNP it did very well indeed. If this is replicated over London then i can see them winning a seat on the GLA. I get the impression your infuriated
ReplyDeleteFool, Goresbrook was once one of the best ward in the London area, the vote has dropped. Some areas of London the BNP would be lucky to get 0.2%. Cortiglia is trailing in the polls, Porn shop owner squire will be very lucky to get 3% across London.
DeleteWhat a poor result. A ward the BNP held twice and the best one in London. I simply can't see how they can win a GLA seat!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure Griffin will be claiming that 30% will be replicated across London and see the BNP win at least 2 GLA seats. In reality, this represents a drop of 40% of their share of the vote. If replicated across London it will see their vote fall to around 3%... May the 3rd will be interesting. If the BNP don't win a seat, who's going to take the blame? Will it be Clive, or will local buffoon and porn baron Squire take the heat?
ReplyDeleteWhen has the BNP ever got 70% of any vote! 30% + 40% drop =70%. What a sad bunch of Butlerites you lot really are.
DeleteWhoever is blamed, it certainly won't be Gri££in, he always passes the buck, he has done that for the last 30 years.
DeleteGriffinites must be really thick if they cannot do simple arithmetic.
DeleteA 40% drop in their vote to reach 30% doesnt mean the starting point was 70%. Idiot.
A 40% drop from a starting point to arrive at today's 30% can be done using simple arithmetic and shows it was originally 50%.
A 40% drop of the 50% of votes makes 30%.
How do these cretins function in the real world?
I can't believe how stupid the people who run the BNP's website think remaining members are. Some idiot of a West Midlands organiser is boasting that his remnants of a region have managed to field 48 candidates - forgetting that Birmingham alone used to field 40 candidates! In fact, a few years ago, the BNP fielded over a 100 candidates in the West Midlands and won seats. Now the best it can do is scrape together 48 who have no chance of wining anything! Sad that remaining members have the memory retention capability of fruit bats! Whereas the situation in the West Midlands is bad it is nowhere near as bad as the SW, South of England, East England, NE, Yorkshire and East Midlands. Is the BNP even a national party anymore - it can't even qualify for an election broadcast, that's how low it has sunk.
DeleteIt seems Bob Taylor is about as effective at winning elections as he is at keeping dogs alive!
ReplyDeleteWoof Woof...
DeleteThink i will have to go to Spec Savers Eddy, i saw that the BNP came second,but i'm still looking for the "ENGLISH DEMORCRATS" where did they come Eddy ??
ReplyDeleteA decent Nationalist candidate could have easily won this seat.The fact is that even though this fragmented Nation is staring into the abyss the White electorate still refuse to acknowledge the real problem is Multiculturalism.
ReplyDeleteEddy what have you ever won? Sweet FA apart from a old dog WOOF WOOF.
ReplyDeleteBarking & Dagenham is our best borough in London, if we can't win there we can't win anything in London. Squire may as well pack his suitcase and go now, if he stays around until Friday 4th May he will look very stupid indeed!
ReplyDeleteWhat's happened to the BNP candidates' selection process?
ReplyDelete"Pictures emerge of Wirral BNP candidate in Hitler salute pose"
http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/9658161.Pictures_emerge_of_Wirral_BNP_candidate_in_Hitler_salute_pose/?
I see the UAF scum were putting out a leaflets with a photo of Taylor firing a large machine gun, I should imagine that out voters off?
ReplyDeleteTaylor is an inadequate who needs to play with toy guns to make himslef feellike a man
DeleteIt isn' just the poor vote; it's all the hard work that's gone to waste. Again we return to the issue of character and the lack of it in the local (regional and national) BNP. They only needed, say, six activists, to win a ward if they'd bedded down locally for a few weeks. Bad candidate, poor organisation, lacking character and shambolic leadership=this sad result. It's pretty obvious that the BNP is busted. Finished. Yesterday's news. Meanwhile, I've just donated £50 to the English Democrats election efforts. All I can afford. Even if you paid me a million I wouldn't work for the BNP ever again. The response on the doorstep from electors to the ED message is often "well, this is much more like it, much more sensible and I always disliked that Griffin fella".
ReplyDeleteSo let's keep working and working for the English Democrats! Ann
Lovely to be wise after the event!
DeleteThey got the machine gun photo from Taylor's own Facebook profile, what a very silly boy!
ReplyDeleteI know very little about the Goresbrook ward but 30% does not seem a disaster .I wonder If there was a local active team putting out a regular local news letter ? And was the ward properly canvassed ? Or did the candidate turn up a week before the election and leaflet drop the ward ? I have no idea , but if it was the latter then we have no chance of winning seats . Local people will vote for the party who is seen to be active doing work for them week in week out no matter how many immigrants are flooding our country .
ReplyDeleteSelfish I know but that's local politics for you .
Maybe they lost because its all coming out about Anders Breivik's best boyfriend Richard - the Lionheart - Barnbrook. You should get on that story Eddy because its gonna be a big 'un mate. Do a bit on fake flake Carlos at the same time why don't you. It just a crying shame there is no pictures of Mendoza's ugly mug after you had finished with it Eddy. I would have framed that - cheers
ReplyDeleteBreivik mentioned a Richard, even if his claims are true then what on earth makes this richard, Mr Barnbrook. Breivik did not give any surnames so your claims are just speculation. To be honest all his talk of the Knights Templers are a load of bull, he was a lone nut
DeleteRichard is not connected to that mad man, he has never been in contact with him, end of story
DeleteTwo question Mr Butler.
ReplyDeleteWhere was the English Democrats? Was you scared to go head to head with the BNP in this by-election for fear of coming last behind the Libdems?
I look forward to your answers.
The ED's have no chance whats so ever of gaining any seats. Eddy knows all this. The only reason he joined the ED's was because he thought the BNP would collapse and members would follow him. This didnt happen of coarse. He is still obsessed with the BNP and most of his posts reflect this. He hardly ever mentions the ED's and he hopes with all his carping the collapse will still come, hes desperate to be its chairman even still.When the wrangles firstv started in the BNP he had a chance but as time goes on , his importance and influence has receeded dramatically.
DeleteDespite the BNP being ravaged by a civil they you helped to create they still managed to get 31% of the vote on a low turnout. Its well within reason that they will win a GLA seat and hopefully this one will be better than that buffoon Richard who was too selfish to resign when he became independent. Those people who voted for BNP were betrayed by that man. If he had any honour he would have stepped down but instead he will out in May and will be forgotten
ReplyDeleteRichard Barnbrook was useless, but Squire-Mendoza would be worse than useless.
DeleteRichard tried his best, will no support from Griffin, in fact Griffin gives no support to our elected officials, he is a lazy bastard.
DeleteAnyone else have the feeling that the RESPECT PARTY has a good chance of gaining many more seats, especially regarding the inner citys ????
ReplyDeleteNorth East Nationalist
It's pretty hilarious how you try and spin a good solid 2nd place into a "terrible" result!
ReplyDeleteMr Butler, back in 2004 the ward was 95% white British. Today it's around 30% white British. So when you take in account the demographic changes in the ward 30% of the vote is ok.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't 95% white British in 2004 and isn't 30% white British now.
DeleteIt was a very solid result, given the demographic shift in the area. Have you ever knocked on doors in a tower block there - every other door an African? 30% shows the support is still there. Why aren't we all trying to build on that, rather than pretend that there's an alternative. There really isn't. No other Nationalist grouping could come close
ReplyDeleteRespect has a good chance and has been getting lots of publicity at just the right time. Apparently, according to a Radio 4 report I heard, their biggest consituency is actuall Bangladeshi/Southern Asians. Sikhs and Hindus don't care for Galloway who, at best, is a demagoguen and chancer. But where is our similar figure on the nationalist scene? It sure isn't Griffin and his supporters' comments here that "30% in Goresbrook isn't bad" indicates the lack of vision and understanding present in all too many Nationalists. The result is DOWN 20% from its peak in an area where there should be a solid nationalist vote anyway; after all the work that's been done in 10 years.
ReplyDeleteProblem with Nationalists is they're mainly involved because they hate some aspect of their life, or life in general and want someone to blame. They're largely not cut out to run campaigns and engage in successful politics because our cause is their "letting off steam" valve rather than a way of radically transforming society.
Hence the ridiculous shenanigans witnessed in London over the last two years. The worst type of people, in most cases, getting involved. All wrapped up in their egos and, generally, poorly educated if message board comments are anything to go by.
Instead of working hard at a local level they just want a neo-fascist Great Dictator who elucidates their hates thus simultaneously reducing their anger for a while and negating the need for them to actual DO anything. We've all seen people like this.
Unless and until we follow an entirely new path based upon an almost entirely new outlook, that of English "Anglo-Saxonism" in modern guise I can't see us going anywhere. We have to drop the marching around on the streets thug-type approach that's failed. The "next great leader" syndrome. The leader that never emerges.
What people want is their culture protecting and a moderate party to persuade them to vote for it. That is the English Democrats and I believe more and more people are coming to see this although it will take time.
Ann C
What a pleasure to read a sensible comment on a nationalist website. Thank you Ann. British Resistance website is like something from 'One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest'.
DeleteManninagh Dooie
Well done the British National Party, at least they are trying.
ReplyDeleteGORESBROOK BY-ELECTIONS:
ReplyDelete16 September 2004
Daniel Kelly BNP
1072 votes 51.9% (1st)
Turnout 2066 28.8%
23 June 2005
Lawrence Rustem BNP
791 votes 32.9% (2nd)
Turnout 2401 33.6%
8 July 2010
Richard Barnbrook BNP
642 votes 34.0% (2nd)
Turnout 1891 25.3%
19 April 2012
Bob Taylor BNP (2nd)
593 votes 30.6%
Turnout 1935 25.6%
Barnbrook got 642 votes in 2010, Taylor got 593 votes in 2012. This is only a drop of 49 votes!
This is hardly a "collapse". The tragedy of this, is that if there had been an enthusiastic campaign, instead of (what appeared to be) a lacklustre one, it could've been ours (Nationalism) for the taking. The result though, has surprisingly held up, even with pictures of geezers with swastikas and machine guns ! ! !
Also, Barnbrook's Turnout was 1891, Taylor's was 1935. This is only a difference of 44, which is more or less the same. The Turnout in 2004 when we won with the blistering 51.9% was still only 2066, only a 131 difference. The Turnouts have remained, more or less, the same over the years.
Taylor's vote was respectable, and (in my opinion), surprising, considering all the Griffin shenanigans over the last few years. Perhaps it shows how desperate our voters are to keep the immigrants out. It shows we still have a solid core base of voters.
Also, the issue of why the EDs did not field a candidate needs to be addressed. I suspect the EDs deliberately did not field anyone in order to guage how far the BNP vote has collapsed/held up. The answer surely has to be, their vote held up. In my opinion, the BNP is capable of winning a GLA seat.
I agree on many of the points raised by Ann and Jay . Many people join nationalist parties to vent there anger . In most cases this is because of the changing cultural landscapes in the areas where they live . They use this energy up mostly vocally at local meetings but have no real interest in local community politics which they find to mundane and boring.
DeleteWith regards to the comments made by Jay yes the Goresbrook ward is certainly winnable . hopefully the nationalist candidate will keep the area warm with a thank you news letter to the voters who supported him and build on the result he as just received .
In the run up to the 2008 GLA elections Richard Barnbrook was polling around 3%, recent polls consistently show Carlos at 1%, it's not looking good I'm afraid.
DeleteThere are no hidden treasures in the ballot boxes for the BNP: now, or in the future!
ReplyDeleteThere is hardly a unit active. Those that lead what is left of the BNP kid themselves and others.
The Griffin worship club is trucking along with one wheel. Only the lumpen elements of Nationalism can be bothered to work for the Squires/Griffin GLA massacre.
A windfall of cash will only slow the pitiful end.
How sad a demise. Griffin as a Leader was a spent force back in 2008.
The NF have more active units in London than the BNP. Good luck to them!
However, I do think the ED's have a major chance to blend a movement of patriotic people together to help save OUR Country. J L
What ever.
DeleteEddy move on, your old news now.
ReplyDeleteThe weather was atrocious yesterday, i think the British National Party would of done better if the rain had held of.Well done you true Nationalists.
ReplyDeleteWhat a relief . the BNP lost because it rained . I was beginning to think that the Griffin family party lost because the people they have left are a uneducated bunch of no Jeremy's
DeleteEddie,
ReplyDeleteYou haven't given us any updates on the legal battles Griffin is having with the many ex members he's stabed in the back over the years. Could you do an update please.
Many thanks in advance.
What was in the depressed BNP person's brown paper bag?
ReplyDelete1. A porn mag.
2. Booze.
3. Sick
A hideous cocktail of all three
Delete75% of the voters couldnt be bothered to turn out. Theres the problem.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is 75% of the electorate could not find any body worth voting for.
DeleteIf Nick Nick is working for the state, then the state may slip a few extra votes for the British Griffin Party in the ballot boxes to give them a GLA member and keep the British Griffin party going.
ReplyDeleteEddy give it a break and shut up.
ReplyDeleteat least the bnp is trying !
what are you doing nothing but trouble.
please get on with your own life .good luck,and leave the B N P alone.and try and wish them good luck .
people would think more of you,
Joe Finnie Glasgow ,
Just for once I feel sorry for Richard Barnbrook. Talk about having daft allegations made against you. The 'Richard the Lionheart' Breivik is gibbering about is Paul Ray. Anyone who has followed the various nutters who have come forward in the extreme right knows that. Ray was originally from the Luton area and claims to be one of the founders of EDL (other officers of EDL dispute his claims). He now lives in Malta.
ReplyDeleteIvan Winters
Democratic Nationalists
The biggest shock for me was the lack of people the BNP had on the ground. I travelled down in 2010 and every polling station was covered with teams whipping in all over. Just a couple of weeks before the london elections the BNP should have been dragging evry vote out ....... but they could not even man polling stations in the best BNP ward in London. I agree the demographics have changed but this is a poor result. If the rumour was true and the BNP were ahead on PV's this makes the result even worse
ReplyDeleteThis worn out blog is getting a boring now eddy ain't it about time you got yourself a proper website smart graphics etc come on thought you was a pro, in a way you are keeping the proper bnp activists hard at work by slagging them off your kicking em up the arse, as for those lazy followers of your thanks for exposing them, thanks Eddy for your help the BNP are getting stronger and indirectly that's down to you well done, like it! We may get a GLA seat thanks to you.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you will get a seat somehow - in fact I don't even think it will be close. The trouble is there is barely anyone involved in London now who played a major role in 2008 so you really don't know the difference in organisation and effort. You are light years away.
DeleteAnd you may not, if the BNP get a seat, then Griffin must be the next messiah .
DeleteEast and South London were worst hit, North and West have only had a slight drop in activists we have always been weak in those areas, The GLA result will make or break the BNP.
ReplyDeleteIf it's a bad result it will be over for good, I will certainly not even bother looking at the BNP site or your as it would be pointless, who's going to bother trying to build it all up again I don't even think Steve Squire will bother if the result is bad, It's a bad situation and it all stemed from Griffin not doing his books on time.
I hope we do win, and I hope Griffin has learned his lesson to audit BNP paper work in the correct manner, as this is why you and him fell out in the first place.
And of course, Eddy, the point is that those activists are still there, aren't they?! It is question of redirecting and reenthusing them and I can see that you've wrestled a great deal with your previous politics and understood some of the difficulties and challenges ahead. So the English Dems already have 100 candidates, very encouraging, and most of the hard work to do after these elections. The BNP has no chance in London at all and in the rest of the country, apart from a few exceptions, is almost entirely moribund as the party website indicates from its lack of local branch reports.
ReplyDeleteAs I have said, and its for the decent activists not yet aligned to get on board with the English Democrats, we're at a Year Zero moment where we literally wake up today, look at the problems faced in our country, and produce something that is relevant to the 21st Century. If they can do it elsewhere then we can do it here.....
Ann C
Where was ALFRED?
ReplyDeleteWell hav'nt you just turned into the hatchet man? Nationalist is that what you consider yourself to be these days? I didnt really get to know you when you were round and about and I believe that to be a small blessing after watching you and other former British National Party members systematically try to destroy what has taken years of your and their time and effort to build. I am ashamed to be addressed as a Nationalist if this is the standard that we can expect from those that have been involved at the highest levels. If you have a grievance with the British National Party please take it on the chin and get on with your own newly found way forward for your own personal style of Nationalism. You can be a hatchet man but use it against your Nationalist enemies. You always seemed to be a very professional and eager Nationalist of what I saw, but these days I am sorry to say that I see none of that
ReplyDeleteRegards
Ian Holt
I am glad that the good people of Barking & Dagenham didn't get landed with that fuck wit Bob Taylor to represent them.
ReplyDeleteThe 'man' is a spineless cretin who can only fight his battles via facebook :D
It's not anyone's personal style, Ian. It's the only way foward and your comments indicate that you're a day late and a dollar short, as the Americans would say. Eddy Butler is not "a hatchet man", he's just telling the truth and he's hardly alone; everyone in and around the BNP knows it's dying and there are many reasons. Mainly Nick Griffin and his inability to lead, to choose decent people with whom to work, his inability to produce legal accounts, his ripping off several hundred thousand pounds of members' money, his many and varied illegal sackings, his dodgy dealings, his complete and total immorality. And so much more....
ReplyDeleteWas out canvassing for the EDs again today and the whole thing feels like being born again.
Ann
I had the sad misfortune to meet you once, when you 'inadvertently' let the UAF film us. I am so pleased you have joined the ED's as you can bring down those Nanby Panby, so called Nationalists as well. What ever happened to "Repatriation"? At least Enoch was in it for what he believed, not to make a name for himself by switching to whatever party best served his EGO. Hypocrite!!!
ReplyDeleteWell said Ian Holt.
ReplyDeletejoe Glasgow ,
Good on you Joe. The Mighty Scot ! Many Regards to you and your good lady.
DeleteI love these post about all fair play rubbish and people shouldn't do this and that. Its politics and politics is a dirty game.
ReplyDeleteMr Butler left a good job to come over and bring skills and talents. He asked a question regarding finance and lost his job. Thats why this blog was hacked and old articles deleted, any new Nationalist joining the BNP could of been tipped off and redirected to this blog and found out the truth.
The leadership of the BNP have a long histroy of fighting dirty against fellow Nationalist and trying to destroy peoples livelihoods.
All Mr Butler is doing is self defence, salvaging any remaining decent Nationalist and warning any new recruits.
North East Nationalist
Hitler employed a bloke like you Eddy,his name was Lord HAW HAW and we all know what happened to him.
ReplyDeleteI live in Goresbrook ward and even though I am not a BNP supporter (even less of their candidate in the by election mentioned) I think they did well! Considering that since the 2004/5/6 elections the ward has been flooded with Africans and more recently asians. Their team was the only people i saw out canvassing besides Labour. Labour were always going to win without a doubt .. But in light of the demographic, overall, they did well
ReplyDeleteANY BODY THAT VOTES ENGLISH DEMMOCRATS ARE WASTING THEIR VOTES THAT CRAP OUTFIT WILL NOT GET THE VOTES OF RIGHT THINKING MEMBERS OF THE PUPLIC THE EDS ARE A BUNCH OF WALTER MITTYS
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