ENGLISH DEMOCRATS POINT THE WAY AHEAD

As I suspected this year’s round of local elections did not produce anything much to shout about. However it is a clear turning point. It is not the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning.

It is quite clear now that the English Democrats are the only nationalist party that offers the prospect of success.
I am very happy with my result.

This is seen across the country – most tellingly perhaps in Liverpool but also in Epping Forest where I stood. The BNP have been wiped out. Some decent councillors have lost their seats as a result, including Pat Richardson and Sharon Wilkinson.
Time is too tight to say more for now... interesting times and an interesting day - and it isn't over yet! Ha!

51 comments:

  1. where now for british nationalism ?.
    what we need now more than ever is nationalist unity but there is precious little of that to be found.
    nationalism is divided and in poor health generally,griffin continues his task of slowly destroying the bnp while the other parties flutter about,mostly directionless,squabbling over members.
    i don't see eddy butler trying to unite nationalists,infact he has a track record of dividing them against each other.
    wake up people,we'll only get somewhere when we stop ripping one other to pieces and stand together.
    the potential is there,there are still some good solid activists in what's left of the BNP.
    there are some good sound nationalists in the NF,doubtless the EDs too have their fair share of loyal nationalists.
    we simply HAVE to come together or else we will perish in obscurity as also rans and no hopers.
    the first task is to starve out griffin,cut off his precious ££££s and he'll soon get the message.
    it is still possible to rebuild british nationalism,we can still equal (perhaps even better) our european counterparts.

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    1. Oh,no you won't starve him out, not while he still has his EU salary & huge expenses. What cares he, as long as he has the NAME & the website?
      As for Eddy dividing nationalists, this is nonsense,he just exposed the rottenness at the top of the party. They are the ones to blame.
      Glad you got a good result, Eddy, more power to the ED's.

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    2. 97 Votes! Good result? Get real you silly woman.

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    3. All true Nationalists must campaign against him when the euro elections come round at least we get our revenge.

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  2. Epping Forest District Council Election Results


    Loughton Fairmead Ward



    David Wixley (Loughton Residents) 428 (54%)
    Stephen Williams Barnes (Lab) 155 (20%)
    Iqbal Singh KalKat (Cons) 114 (14%)Edward Mark Butler (Eng Dems) 97 (12%)


    High Ongar, Willingale and the Rodings


    Maggie McEwen (Cons) 345 (70%)Robin Charles William Tilbrook (Eng Dems) 63 (13%)
    Lewis Alfred Montlake (Lab) 51 (10%)Jeremy Nicholas Barnecutt (Green) 31 (6%)

    Edward Mark Butler (Eng Dems) 97 (12%)
    Tilbrook (Eng Dems) 63 (13%)

    Get real Butler, and get a life. Ps how did you best mate Beveley do?

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  3. Eddy are you watching the same election results as me. All nationalist parties took a hiding. You cant gloss this one over. The BNP lost 6 seats and the ED's 2. The Ed's never surged ahead and have achieved in most places tiny results and even went backwards. The NF and BFP are non existent and always will be.You got 97 votes, if your pleased with that then there is no hope

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  4. It seems that bnp voters didnt switch to the ED's as hoped, they just didnt bother to get off the couch. To be honest i cant see the English Democrats ever getting off the ground

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  5. Must say You and Francis have made an effort Well Done! shame about the other 3 scruffy buggers on your right.

    Hope Lawrence kept his Camel parked outside the building.

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  6. Are you having a giggle. You know when you have failed when you start to believe your own propaganda.It was no great result for anyone but to try to spin the result for the ED's as some kind of turning point is ludicrous.The BNP, NF and ED's all suffered reverses. Wherever nationalists had seats, they lost, just because the BNP lost more is because they had more to start with. No one retained there seats. How can you see this as some kind of victory. Its insane to see you and Griffin arguing over who got the biggest crumb, because thats what we have, just crumbs

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  7. Eddy, It's wipe-out in London nobody has saved their deposit, and the London wide results will be around the 2%, so no seat for Mr Squire.

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  8. Griffin is Tweeting from Wales not London, he must know it's finished?

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  9. Very interesting article

    "The BNP is finished as an electoral force"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/04/bnp-local-elections-electoral-force-finished

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  10. Loser, loser!

    Great to see you trounced , im trying not to laugh.

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  11. ... Well done, its all positive for England. And still three years till the general election. 'May 'they' live in interesting times'

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  12. The National tried to unite nationalists back in the late 1960's, who wrecked the NF?

    There won't be any unity while the Griffin family are involved.

    Still I cheered when I shaw Peter Davies got a resounding YES vote in Doncaster ;)

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  13. BNP wiped out is an understatement. It is completely and utterly finished.

    Blowing £500,000 plus in London and it now has just 3 councillors nationwide. To put that into perspective, Loughton Residents' Association has 12 councillors.

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    1. They didnt spend 500,000, thats the amount that was received in a bequest.

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    2. Where ever the BNP, ED's or the NF went head to head, the BNP won every time, except for the liverpool mayoral vote. BNP supporters have not turned to the ED's or NF, in fact all nationalist parties suffered

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  14. fuck off we dont need you fake Nationalists back! We will survive on our own.

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    1. its not your survival thats important Mr strictly limited, its ours.

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  15. British Nationalism?, what is it? what does it stand for?. what is unity? with whom?. Griffin is without doubt a subversive in the classic mold of Cambridge traitors, who is Simon Darby?. Before we we find a cure we must first examine the patient,, A critical line analysis of events. for me the alarm bells started ringing not long before the last general election some of Griffin's decisions appeared irrational, but in hindsight they were not,they were the guiding hand downward hidden under a veil of deceit.

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    1. this is an interesting post, can you elaborate?

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    2. I have thought similar things about Nigel Farage but in the end it's all just pointless speculation. The salient fact is that Griffin is a complete disaster for nationalist politics and that nationalists have to start to rebuild a new party, one which doesn't have a constitution that is a dictators charter. Eddy is right, the best choice for nationalists now is the English Democrats.

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  16. London wide votes:

    BNP 47,024
    English Democrats 22,025
    National Front 8,006

    Any other political party looking at the money spent in London would have forced Griffin out on Friday.

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  17. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17966327

    25% of meat sold in UK now Halal. These are the sort of issues ED should be campaigning on to build a grassroots movement.

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    1. Halal meat ONLY at GLA restuarant, no choice.

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    2. Yes while the Bloggers and others examine the entrails of Nationalism, its "Sharia by stealth" the Chairperson of the Conservative Party "Baroness Warsi",a unelected politician is a Muslim how did that happen? the newest MP George Galloway is a Muslim, there are more Muslim Councilors in Bradford, than the whole Nationalist movement in England. I am currently reading "THE OBAMA ERROR" , we are in mortal danger but that's not important, slagging each other off is.

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  18. Squire blew £60,000 of his own money on the election while Griffin kept the money raised around the country in his own pocket and will continue his scam while idiots still support him, I hope you muppets who still think he's wonderful wake up soon? Griffin will keep a shell of a party going just to collect legacies and run it as a family firm.

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    1. I totally agree. Griffin's BNP isn't about nationalist politics its about milking the gullible for donations and legacies. It's about securing a future for Griffin - not British children. The BNP operates in much the same way as do dodgy churches in the US - with slimy TV/Internet based "clergymen" combining pseudo "Christian" worship with soliciting donations to "do God's work". "Let me pray for you - just send a donation to ......" - alternatively "dig deed, give until it hurts and send your donation for a better Britain to......".

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    2. The Church Of Gri££in is what the BNP has become for real

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  19. Surely Squire must be sacked a London Organiser now? Carlos's vote was lower than Mike Newland's back 12 yeats ago. The London vote completely collapsed and Griffin can't blame it on any other factors. The softly, softly policy has failed, the electorate didn't like silly, foreign Carlos. They want to hear some common sense, hard line Nationalist politics.

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    1. "They want to hear so common sense, hard line Nationalist politics".........2% of them appear to want that but unfortunately the vast majority of English people will never vote for the BNP. It was doomed from the moment it was spawned by its NF mother. It made some very valuable contributions but ultimately has been a hinderence for nationalists due to its roots in the NF it's inability to attract candidates of real quality and the ease with which the media has landed punches on it. It will never be acceptable now to anything but a tiny fraction of the English population. It should have modernised 20 years ago. Instead we are left picking up the pieces while England is drinking at the last chance saloon.

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  20. Well, done Eddy. The people condemning you may be emotional, but they are not realists.

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  21. "It is quite clear now that the English Democrats are the only nationalist party that offers the prospect of success" Pray tell me Eddy where you had Success.The Ed's lost everywhere bar one when going against the BNP, and you yourself received a miserable 97 votes after your supporters were saying the ward was a nationalist stronghold, lets face it the ED.s are hardly likely to storm into power, they cant even win a single election

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  22. Short-sightendness is one of the many issues facing nationalism but I think we now need to dump 'British Nationalism into the ashcan of history. Anyone knowing anything about history knows full well that Britain is/was an artificial imperialist construct. The whole premise of Britain is flawed. 99% of activists and members always were really English and fighting for England anyway and my view is that we leave Scots and Welsh to organise their own resistance.

    In truth, supposed "agitators" and "infiltrators" are not responsible for this (Griffinite) nationalist failure.

    No. Far from it.

    It is the quality and character of its membership that is/was the problem; too many men hating everyone, themselves included, not really interested in genuine, day-to-day politics but just in having a moan about their shitty lives. A lot of macho posturing, sitting in the pub doing nothing of value.

    One obvious FACT is that female leadership in France has done the nationalist movement no harm at all; and in Hungary too. Certainly it softens the image (and 52% of voters are women).

    The paucity of political debate within nationalist circles, the low educational ability of too many of its members, the total inability to frame and argue a point, the inability to even spell and use correct grammar are almost unique to Nationalism.

    So unless we clean house we're going nowhere. Community politics is HARD WORK and most nationalists don't want to do it hence their wasting ten years following The Next Fearless Leader in Nick Griffin rather than developing deep roots within local communities. Now they'll be lazingly waiting and hoping for the ne'er coming New Great Leader in order that they don't have to get their own arses in gear and organise something locally.

    The people, the voters, the members, the activists ARE THERE but we need a grown up political party to achieve this and neither the BNP nor NF are it. Obviously.....

    All is not doom and gloom. Many political parties have bad times like the FN in France after 2005 when its vote collapsed. At that time Marine Le Pen moderated some of the more reactionary nonsense spouted by old guard FNers and moderated her message, outlook, policies, image and delivery and I suggest the same is needed NOW within our movement.

    Year Zero; everything there we need but radically new forms of political organisation and agitation required for the 21st Century.

    Unless we're prepared to look long and hard in the mirror AND STOP BLAMING VOTERS we'll fail. I don't hate the voters; as Melanie Philips points out on her blog, most voters HATE ALL POLITICIANS and don't trust them so we have to be different, new, better and with new forms for doing things.

    It's time we lived and learned and stop moaning, whingeing and complaining. It's all there for the taking....

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    1. Steve in Suffolk5 May 2012 at 19:59

      Apart from a few typos this is an excellent post Ann. I agree we can't go on blaming the press/voters/Establishment etc etc.

      Nationalist votes in single figures (as percentages) will get our cause absolutelty nowhere. We can't continue like this, it is pointless to congratulate ourselves on a 7-8-9% share of the vote.

      Ultimately it all comes back to us, yes US; every single of us politically minded individuals who daily interact with our families/friends/neighbours/workmates etc. We have to make ourselves to be seen as people with perhaps controversial opinions but in every other respect are wholesome good folk who would make good neighbours and work colleagues, suppliers of goods and services and generally "good eggs".

      I like and agree with Ann's idea that the nationalist movement needs more ladies in positions of influence in the movement. That's not a PC attitude, just common sense. It's also not about "softening" our appeal but an absolute fact that the female sex has much more to be worried about concerning the transformation of the major cities of the UK into enclaves of an Islamic caliphate in the next few decades.

      Genuine shame resides on the "big men" of nationalism, the so called hard core with "strong, unwavering principles" and total dedication who can't get their lardy backsides out of their armchairs, switch off Sky sport and get themselves active in their local communities.

      That's what the real nationalists are doing today and everyday in their and OUR local communities. It is not glamorous (tomorrow I am taking some families on a tour of a local livestock farm with about 4 inches of mud underfoot) but it can be rewarding and most of all it will yield results in the coming months and years.

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    2. ann c,you're talking absolute crap.
      complete and utter unadulterated bullshit.
      such is your new enthusiasm for the english democrats (who have no doubt pandered to your self absorbed drivel in their frantic search for members)that you're willing to abandon the union forever,good luck trying to find people willing to vote for that : those of us in the real world know full well that you're on a hiding to nothing.
      everytime you come on here you talk rubbish,you're obviously one of butlers' feeble minded cheerleaders clapping wildly at everything that comes out of his mouth.
      here's an idea,think about the garbage you're writing before you post it.
      you want to give up on the union ?,then that makes you the enemy.
      you're not a nationalist,you're a divider and a sectarian - we don't need you.
      we don't need the freemason state agent journalists' tout butler either.

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    3. The Union (Scotland in particular) has been voting Labour for donkeys of years. Labour has flooded England with immigrants but not done the same to Scotland. This is a problem for England and we need our identity back to solve it and stop suffering from the Scottish voters decisions. Scotland will also benefit from an increased sense of national identity and self determination.

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  23. Thank God for Britain First the only movement with any sense, elections are a waste of time what is it you dont understand about that?

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    1. Britain First = "show me the money" + "the sodomites and zionists are coming to get me". Its for the sectionable fringe of the pub and won't be around for long.

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  24. The BNP wiped out, Griffin's destruction of the BNP is almost complete. In two years time Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons will both lose their MEP seats. Onwards and upwards for the BNP. Griffin the "guv'nor". Pah ha ha ha

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  25. I can't believe that the idiots on here can't see that they can't throw "You're racists " anymore. Wake up, it was a real good move to stop the left throwing shit at us....BNP all the way.

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    1. BNP all the way? You mean further along the gutter where Griffin has dragged us - or down into the sewer? And why, exactly, can't they call us "racists" anymore my friend? They will call us what they like and whenever they like. I would rather be slandered by the media and get a huge vote (as we used to) than have a media friendly image and get a pathetic vote as we have just had in London and across the country. We lost ALL 6 of the council seats we were defending and gained 0. Our London vote was the lowest for over 10 years. We only have 4 elected representatives left in the whole country - Griffin, Brons and 2 councillors in the NW. That's it, 4 out of over 60 we had just 3 years ago! Politics is about getting big votes and wining seats - not about being nice to the media and getting derisory votes. Oh and by the way - what steps have been put in place by Griffin to monitor where the legacy money has gone or is going? Will it be spent on wages and expenses for the usual shysters or just simply disappear down the BNP black hole without trace or explanation as is the usual story?

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  26. 97 votes and you are happy?

    For goodness sake, where is the ambition on all nationalists of every shade of opinion?
    Are we all doomed forever to congratulate one another on getting a handful of votes?

    Disaster!

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  27. These results are a disaster and reflect the appalling state of Nationalist in the uk today.I remember organising car loads of activist to travel from Derby to the West Midlands to help Steve and Sharon leaflet Wards including strongholds like Tipton ,this was around 94/95, we would leaflet for the likes of the late John Lord and would be guaranteed 20% of the vote, we do not seem to have progressed very far since.We had such great camaraderie in those days travelling miles to help each other out, always laughing and finishing the night off with a pint ready to do it all again the next day, great memories indeed.

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    1. Steve Edwards6 May 2012 at 09:29

      Happy days Graham . Hope you and your family are well .

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  28. Now, the English Democrats frankly did pants in the local elections, with the exception of Doncaster, but they're such an irrelevant load of elections its just not worth getting excited about. No local council election is going to make the blindest bit of difference to anyone's life so there's no point in getting excited and the public are well aware of this, thus the hideously low turnout.
    Nonetheless, the BNPs vote is down to about 50% on 2008 results, and the English Democrats are on th
    e way up. I don't know if anyone has had the misfortune of reading this article from the BNP website, it's absolutely ridiculous. Apparently the BNP have no debt and they're on the way up! Brilliant. Only Nick Griffin or the likes could make up Shit like this!!
    www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/election-overview-and-road-ahead

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    1. In Havering, the ED vote went down by 60%, so how does work out, the ED vote went down everywhere. Doncaster was the exception

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  29. That is an excellent post Anne C., but whilst you're 'cleaning up the house' and looking to learn from the success of Marine Le Pen and the FN then one thing to learn is that Marine has not only softened up the image of Nationalism, but she has made it entirely respectable.

    If she has had such a big electoral success, then it is because ordinary, 'every day people', will vote for her and can say it openly.

    I get the feeling that Nationalists in England are more concerned with scoring points and nabbing voters off each other in an incestuous pool rather than appealing to the wide electorate.

    This might be what you are saying...but in that case, how can you justify the blog post of Robin Tilbrook talking up the EDL 'March For England' in Brighton and trying to pass it off as 'a small family orientated patriotic group'and 'a patriotic flag waving family parade' when it
    was patently anything but...?

    A glimpse of the the people marching shows that they were were a bunch of shaven haired stereotypical neo-nazi types, swaggering, flicking V signs, a few with scarves over their faces, and I spotted one obese woman amongst them.

    They were guaranteed to attract trouble from the equally
    unattractive trouble seeking yobs that were bound to oppose them, thus putting the poor Police in the middle and no doubt costing a fortune in wasted money and taking the police away from more useful work..

    I cannot see 'ordinary people' agreeing with this sort of thing (nor Marine Le Pen's voters agreeing with this sort of thing). It brings the flag into disrepute by reinforcing stereotypes, and seems to bear out that 'Trojan Horse' leaflet. English Patriots are bound to be doomed, and the EDs get nowhere, with support for this sort of negative activity.

    Of course hard work in the community is the answer.

    Also, probably raising the EDs profile by using Guerilla Marketing techniques to sell a positive friendly image.

    Of course

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  30. You are clearly a lunatic.

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